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Lost posts

Sunday, June 13th, 2010

As some have noticed the archives are missing posts and comments from 12/07 to 11/09, which were unfortunately lost in an update to the site. Fortunately many, but not all, of them were copied-and-pasted from discussions at the old Gaia IPS pod, itself now defunct. I saved some of my preferred discussions from the old IPS pod and include links below to those discussions, which should also fill in at least a few of the gaps in the archives here:

Lady Gaga

Liberals are smarter than conservatives

Transpersonal Psychology

George Herbert Mead

Latte Party

Letting daylight into magic

John Caputo

Buddhism & Psychanalysis

Framing liberals

The shadow of the Dalai Lama

Stephen Batchelor

Spirituality without faith

RAW & E-prime

Mystery guest

Model of hierarchical complexity

Jean Gebser

Jacques Derrida

David Michael Levin

The next Buddha will be a collective

The narrative of enlightenment as consumer commodity

Transpersonal cognition

The status of states (all threads)

The end of enlightenment

Synergist spirituality

On meditation

Nondual or performative contradiction

Myth of the given

Integral capitalism

Gregory Desilet responds to Balder

Daily tarot card meditation game (all threads)

Authentic enlightenment

WC lattice & the pre-trans fallacy

Different kind of love

Goddess

Modern day outlaw

Aestheticized Buddhism

Meditation & neuroscience

New home for Integral Postmetaphysical Spirituality

Friday, March 26th, 2010

Since Gaia is shutting down here’s a link to the new home, at least for now, on the Ning Network

Integral Postmetaphysical Spirituality

Thursday, February 4th, 2010

Since I spend most of my online discussion time at this pod I thought I’d promote it here, the Integral Postmetaphysical Spirituality pod at Gaia. You don’t have to be a member of Gaia to read it but you do to post. If you want to join membership is free.

New integral blog: Integral Praxis

Wednesday, August 29th, 2007

There’s a new blog in town called Integral Praxis. Here is their description from the “about us” section:

This blog is a joint project.

Integral Praxis is the offical homepage of the Integral Research Group (IRG). IRG is an innovative and critically informed non-profit research and development venture.

We seek to conduct cross-cultural & integrative research – while developing various applications for communities and community-based initiatives.

Integral Praxis will provide information and resources for an integrative and critical analysis of human emergence, sustainability and community development. Our posts and content reflect the interests of IRG and our associates – independent of any other organization or group.

Integral Praxis will also be a source for relevant material on integral theory, applications and culture.

Email us at: integralpraxis@gmail.com – for more information, submissions or to learn more about this project.

Valid filtering or censorship?

Wednesday, July 11th, 2007

We’ve engaged H. DePayens extensively in dialogue recently and it seems he (or she) is becoming more and more personally insulting to those who participate in this blog. H is not without some valid points and those have been answered with respect and consideration. But it seems H is bordering on a lack thereof and I’m wondering if it’s time to filter him out from further discussion? Are we so open to debate and criticism that we allow such lack of appropriate, civil protocol? If not, at what point does it become censorship instead of valid filtering? What are your thoughts on this?

The cult of I-I revisited

Saturday, May 12th, 2007

As Open Integral was initiated in large part as a reaction to Ken’s Wyatt Earp affair and charges of being a cult, here’s a recent discussion from ebuddha on the topic. What do you think?

Update on Integral Institute as a “cult“, or cult-like
by ebuddha on Wed 09 May 2007 05:27 PM PDT

Last year, when all the crazy-ness around Ken Wilber’s Wyatt Earpy posts began, I had been looking for the criteria checklist for “cultish” behavior. I had found one checklist, and blogged on that, but I knew there was one out there that was more comprehensive. (It’s clear that ANY checklist would have some points, as organizations have analogous interests, such as a cause, or getting new members, etc. Where is gets dangerous is if nearly every item on the checklist test, is “yes”. )

Today, quite by accident, I ran into it the checklist. So I thought it would be interesting to go through each check box, one at a time:

1, The group displays excessively zealous and unquestioning commitment to its leader and (whether he is alive or dead) regards his belief system, ideology, and practices as the Truth, as law.

Well, certainly SOME people feel this way about Ken Wilber. But in my estimation, not many. Since this a on/off judgment call, I’m going with “no”.

2. Questioning, doubt, and dissent are discouraged or even punished.

This one isn’t even close – definite “no”.

3. Mind-altering practices (such as meditation, chanting, speaking in tongues, denunciation sessions, and debilitating work routines) are used in excess and serve to suppress doubts about the group and its leader(s).

While meditation is encouraged, as is the ILP, this is still a definite no.

4. The leadership dictates, sometimes in great detail, how members should think, act, and feel (for example, members must get permission to date, change jobs, marry—or leaders prescribe what types of clothes to wear, where to live, whether or not to have children, how to discipline children, and so forth).

Umm…nope.

5. The group is elitist, claiming a special, exalted status for itself, its leader(s) and members (for example, the leader is considered the Messiah, a special being, an avatar—or the group and/or the leader is on a special mission to save humanity).

There is definitely this going on, because, you know, integral is the highest form of being! . Given the terms of this checklist, I’ll give this a “yes”. Although, it must be said, most groups consider themselves on a “special mission”.

6. The group has a polarized us-versus-them mentality, which may cause conflict with the wider society.

If the “us” is the 2nd tier, versus 1st tier, then yes. While I think, most of the time, in practice, people aren’t evaluated as “1st tier” or “2nd Tier”, the philosophy as such, DOES easily lead to an “us” versus “them” mentality. I’m going to go with “yes”, but with caveats. Still counts as a yes though, for these purposes.

7. The leader is not accountable to any authorities (unlike, for example, teachers, military commanders or ministers, priests, monks, and rabbis of mainstream religious denominations).

This is true. While there is a new CEO, and a board, as was seen last year, Ken isn’t really accountable to anyone – the power structure rests with him solely. It must be said, for any founder of a company, this is usually the case. It is the case for Anthony Robbins, or Chopra, or any single proprietor with employees. But still, this would be “yes”, on the checklist.

8. The group teaches or implies that its supposedly exalted ends justify whatever means it deems necessary. This may result in members’ participating in behaviors or activities they would have considered reprehensible or unethical before joining the group (for example, lying to family or friends, or collecting money for bogus charities).

No.

9. The leadership induces feelings of shame and/or guilt in order to influence and/or control members. Often, this is done through peer pressure and subtle forms of persuasion.

You have a little bit of this, in the 1st tier/2nd tier distinction, but not enough for a “yes”. No on the checklist.

10. Subservience to the leader or group requires members to cut ties with family and friends, and radically alter the personal goals and activities they had before joining the group.

No, clearly not.

11. The group is preoccupied with bringing in new members.

Isn’t nearly EVERY group preoccupied with bringing in new members, from the democratic party, to the local rotary club? Not much evidence, but the checklist would be yes. Doesn’t really prove anything though. “yes”.

12. The group is preoccupied with making money.

Again, most groups are preoccupied with making enough money to function. In terms of an ‘extraordinary’ desire to make money -ponzi schemes or multi-level marketing, working on your friends – that would be a “no”.

13.Members are expected to devote inordinate amounts of time to the group and group-related activities.

Nope.

14. Members are encouraged or required to live and/or socialize only with other group members.

Nope.

15. The most loyal members (the “true believers”) feel there can be no life outside the context of the group. They believe there is no other way to be, and often fear reprisals to themselves or others if they leave (or even consider leaving) the group.

No.

So – what’s the total?

11 No’s
4 Yes’s.

Given the fact that at least 2 of the Yes’s in question have caveats to them, I think we can clearly, unequivocally, and authoritatively say that, Integral Institute is in no shape, way or form, a cult. Just an organization, with an enthusiastic mission to spread one philosopher’s views.

Now, as an alternative, if this same checklist were to be utilized for Andrew Cohen the Guru – my, my my, how quickly we get more yes’s! Very quickly you find out that yes, Cohen as Guru groups are, organizationally, a cult.

2007 AUM Conference

Thursday, April 26th, 2007

CIIS will be sponsering this and it will be held at IONS in Petaluma CA, a mere 35-minute drive for me. Yes, it’s an advertisement but there will be a lot of “integral” presentations and workshops ranging from the Aurobindian to the Wilberian to the SDi. Perhaps I’ll bring Derrida and Nagarjuna along with me to speak out during one of the above?

AUM 2007 CONFERENCE
“Integral Yoga in Dialogue with the World”
June 20–24, 2007

Institute of Noetic Sciences (IONS)
Petaluma, California

ABOUT THE AUM 2007 CONFERENCE

In keeping with the evolutionary need and challenge of these times, the theme of this year’s AUM Conference is “Integral Yoga in Dialogue with the World.”

In the spirit of modeling this collaborative dialogue with the world, California Institute of Integral Studies (CIIS) is hosting and co-organizing the event.

Integral Yoga in Dialogue with the World

What is the 21st-century relationship between Sri Aurobindo’s evolutionary vision and the evolving fields of human knowledge and experience? With the enormous research opening up in the fields of consciousness and spirituality, with a quantum leap in emergent knowledge happening simultaneously across disciplines—from the hard and soft sciences of physics, biology, and psychology to the applied researches in ecology, integral healing, whole systems behavior, and collective intelligence—what does the Integral Yoga Community have to share with and learn from its evolutionary allies in the world, particularly in view of the evolutionary crises that presently threaten the very sustainability of our terrestrial existence?

Call for contributors

Thursday, April 26th, 2007

If you are interested in authoring a main post at OI and willing to carry the conversation forward please contact James Burke. His email address can be found in the “About” page. Much as I like hearing the sound of my own writing this site is about multiple perspectives hopefully shedding light on each other. And we need more perspectives. Please take the plunge and contribute to the worthy cause of expanding the theory and practice of this burgeoning movement. Thanks.

A note on Integral Spiritualy, the draft & book

Thursday, March 29th, 2007

I do not own a copy of the published book. I only have the draft and use quotes from it. In an earlier thread Joe Perez could not find the quotes I used from the draft in the book so said they were not valid. I have since looked at a copy of the book (and again last night) and most, if not all, of the quotes I use here at OI from the draft survive intact and in whole in the book, including the ones referenced in the latest thread on nonduality. One merely has to look for them at a different page number. If because I don’t buy the book and provide that for you invalidates my arguments then you’re right, I must be a lower level of development cuz I just don’t get that.

What happened to Open Integral?

Tuesday, March 13th, 2007

What happened to the vision of a collaborative blog where we shared our integral vision? It seems those first interested have gone off in their own, individual directions. Which is natural, of course, if it were in addition to sharing in a collaborative vision. But to abandon the latter for the former? Is there nothing in common we share beyond the term “integral” which means something different to each of us? Was our temporary bond merely a reaction to the Wyatt Earp fiasco, a focus on something negative instead of something positive? Have we petered out, our wads blown and it’s time to seek out new recepticles for our creative seeds? Hello, is there anybody out there? This is your blog, a community blog, and without your participation it’s as good as dead.